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In Florence.. [05 Jun 2006|06:24pm]

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I am currently studying abroad in Florence. I can't believe I'm here! I just thought I would share with you the pictures I took of the different Dante places.

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I feel like a sap, but I actually cried when I sat in Dante's church, imagining what I had read in La Vita Nuova. Dante is a big part of why I chose to come here to study abroad and not somewhere else.

Hope you all enjoyed that.

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[09 May 2006|03:42pm]

question from someone who knows next to nothing about DanteCollapse )

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Dante, Catholicism and Superstition [14 Oct 2005|12:02am]

I wont be able to post all of my thought here, and I have most of it scattered in varied papers of it, but I mostly wanted to open the floor for reactions, opinions, and other things people have noted.

I wanted to bring something up. In the Catholic church, there was a large movement against Superstition and against people acknowledging "magic." Magic does not exist in the true Catholic church, and many famous Catholic philosophers came out against people attacking those who "practiced" it and those who claimed it had any power. This comes from a history of the Romans having to do the same thing, as there were cults that believed in magic. Marcus Aurelius, Apuleius and many others were late Romans, just before the Christian times, that had problems/involvments with superstition and came out against it.

Lucretius wrote a whole epic poem devoted to dispersing with "superstition." The stoics and the epicireans tried their hardest to purge it. Dante, at first glance, seems to believe in it.

However, he really doesn't. His use of classical figures along side of angels and other magical beings does not give weight to those creatures "physically" existing, but existing as representative. The angels in each piece were symbols of some kind of truth, belief or higher virtue to strive after, just as all of the monsters were also symbollic of human flaws.

In such a way, as Dante leads one through hell and later gives the "truth" in Heaven (that there really is no hell, just in the mind, and that God's love is all embracing and infinite), Dante is trying to express how to attain true spirituality. The way he says is through understanding of the divine nature of things (love), striving towards it, and then also trying to live a good life. Completing those three, you can recieve God and Heaven on earth.

Thus, there is no "evil" (as the Boethius influence can show us) and there is no "supernatural." There is only a higher level of spirutality that is close to traditional Buddhism (about seeking peace, tranquility and transcendence). The problem is that people are too trapped in the physical world to want to trascend, and seek "magic" and "superstition," because they mistakenly believe that it is proof of the divine, even though neither of those two are real.

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Dante Artwork [13 Oct 2005|12:45am]

I recently found a set of books in the style of Dore's original work, but modernized. For instance (with the same "line drawing") at the end of Malebranche, instead of overlooking the pit of the last level, Dante and Virgil are filling up their car at the last gas station before the Jersey Turnpike.

I thought it was very amusing, but I was wondering if there were any other parodies, that fit the exact idea, but are funny? My old roommate has been doing "comic" adaptations of the the three, but I am sure there are people out there who have done also equally amusing things.

Also, what is your favorite artwork? I own original copies of Dore's work, so I am biased, but there are many creative adaptations out there.

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[09 Jun 2005|01:33am]


Though I generally know Dante's history and that he devoted his poems to Beatrice, more specifically:

Anyone know anything particularly interesting about Beatrice?

Just to wonder, you know.

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Purgatorio and Paradiso [30 May 2005|02:54am]

Everyone always seems to be focused on the Inferno, even though Dante (the author) later tells us that Dante (the poet) has a limited understanding of Heaven and that the "Divine Structure" is something made for him to understand, i.e., that is not really how Heaven is. I took a serious grad level class on the subject and wrote my final paper on the issue, which my professor said was the best I have written, so I assume what I am about to say is founded in Dante philosophy, even though few want to talk about it now adays (because everyone is too wrapped up in dwelling in the Inferno).

Dante is told, by the Angels, the spirits in Heaven, the great Eagle, etc etc, that Heaven is not as he percieves it. Everything in Hell, the rigid structure that is Aristotalian (sp?) and the way sinners are punished is via means of contrapasso. The sin fits the sinner, but it is a mental place. "Heaven is Hell as the sinner percieves it" and thus, they put themselves into taht punishment. Seeing as how Dante cannot truly understand Heaven, and must organize it, then the same can be considered towards the other two. Likewise, the boarders between Heaven, Hell and Purgatory don't actually exist, just as there is no difference between Heaven and Earth.

They exist together, because they exist as part of God. The way we percieve, is as the spirits say after Canto XVI in the Paradiso part of inability to understand the Divine Plan. What is the Divine Plan? Well, Dante hints to the fact that everyone can, and will, be saved. That really goes back to the Inferno and the way we percieve it (just as Eliot said that we cannot understand the Inferno without understanding Paradiso). In such a view, people are only punishing themselves in Hell, and God did not place them there. They placed themselves there. If they only realize that there is no Hell, that there exists nothing besides God, then they will experience Heaven.

This then goes to the issue many people have over Pagans getting into Heaven and how someone can only get to Earthly Paradise in Purgatory. It is all about your understanding. The Pagans at the top of Hell are "closer to Jesus than Christian Sinners." This really means a lot, because those Pagans exist side by side with Christ, but the fact that they don't know of Christ keeps them from realizing it, and keeps Dante the poet (who is unable to understand a non Christian being saved) from understanding this concept. It is really deeply spiritual and important to understand. No one seems to want to talk about it, but I have a lot of information on the topic if anyone wants to hear it.

I post this mostly because everyone is busy dwelling in the Inferno. I'm a fan of Paradiso myself. I've studied Purgatorio Heavily (had far too many classes on Eliot not to). Oh, and I am a grad student focusing on Romantic British Lit.

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beatrice in paradise [02 May 2005|10:57pm]

[ mood | discontent ]

Soooo...this is fairly random, but I'm a writer, and I'm currently working on two loosely connected short stories. The first, which I've already written but need to heavily revise, is called Through Hollow Lands, is set in modern times and involves Dante's road trip through America which should on a certain level parallel Dante's journey in The Divine Comedy. The one I'm working on right now is called Where the Cricket Sings and is from the perspective of a modified Beatrice; it has elements of our modern times and of Dante's medieval times. Dante does come in there at some point. Both stories are heavily inspired by La Vita Nuova, more so than The Divine Comedy. Basically I was just wondering if anyone would volunteer to "beta-read" them when I'm done with the revising. Since you lot are fond of Dante, I figured somebody here might enjoy them, and be able to give me some valuable feedback.

Alright. I'll stop rambling now.

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[17 Apr 2005|09:59am]

I was wondering, do any of you have a particular favorite translator for Dante's Inferno? There are so many translated versions. I haven't read the book yet and don't want to pick the 'wrong' one. I'm sure you can't go [too] wrong with any of them, but I'd like to start my Divine Comedy education with the best. My Humanities teacher said he thinks the Longfellow and Pinsky versions are the best. Your thoughts?

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Rafael and Dante [31 Mar 2005|09:47pm]

It is not much known that Rafaello Sanzio (Rafael) painted Dante in the Stanze in the Palazzi Pontifici, in the Vatican... In two of this stanzes, Rafael paints along the most important characters from religion and poetry Dante Alighieri. I found out this tru my art classes and it was a great new when my teacher pointed out how Dante was very important both for the religion for being the designer of Inferno, Pugatorio and Paradiso and of course, for his poetry.

Images of both rooms and details of DanteCollapse )

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Hello... [16 Mar 2005|12:16pm]

[ mood | pleased ]

This community doesn't seem terribly active, but I'm making a post nonetheless. I was really happy to discover this community; I first read Inferno when I was 14, and have been obsessed ever since. I was lucky enough to take a course on Dante Alighieri with a really brilliant professor in late 2003, which renewed my love for the poet. It just occurred to me that I probably look a bit of a fangirl, with my username and icon, but ah well. There are worse things.

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a fellow traveller [05 Feb 2005|09:09pm]

[ mood | curious ]

la tomba di Dante
la tomba di Dante2

Yes, these photos are what they seem--Dante's Tomb in Ravenna, Italy. I live a three minute's walk away and see it each day on my way to school. I'm studying for a year in Ravenna, and sadly am almost through. But more to the point--

I came up with a theory about Dante's Inferno. I think that since Dante studied the Italian language extensively, he might have founded his Nine Rings of Hell on the Italian language. During my time here, I've been told multiple times that Italian has one of the most complex grammatical structures used in modern languages. There are nine components to the Italian language:

Then, just as some of the rings of hell had sublayers, some of the grammatical aspects break down further:
Nouns--masculine and feminine
Verbs--ending in ARE, ERE, or IRE (along with many irregulars that fit into no catagory)
Articles--masculine and feminine, sigular and plural, and then the irregulars

I know that its a general rule that Dante wrote his tale about his search for his one true love--Beatrice, but is it possible that he based the structure to his Inferno on the hellish attributes of the Italian language? The Italian used by Dante and Bocaccio is the accepted modern day Italian (give or take a few new words and phrases). Please leave me your thoughts/opinions on the subject. Thanks!!


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[24 Jan 2005|08:11pm]

[ mood | contemplative ]

Greetings every one. I am snowed in right now so I thought I would ask all of you a question. I am assuming that all of you have read the Inferno. So the question is what is your favorite Canto in the Inferno and why? Mine is Canto XXVIII, the Sowers of Discord. Overall I find the Malbolge of simple fraud to be one of the most interesting sections of the entire Comedia. The interesting ways in which Dante has the sinners punished for their sins is simply astounding. The part of Canto 28 in which Bertrand de Born extends his severed head as if it were a lantern to light his dark and endless way still gives me goosebumps every time I read it.

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[22 Jan 2005|07:59pm]

[ mood | curious ]

Hey everyone. I just happened to see your community and decided to join because of my love for the Divine Comedy. Around here there aren't that many people with whom discuss the Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso. So I look forward to being a member of this community.

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The Great Dante Alighieri [03 Jan 2005|09:57am]

[ mood | calm ]

Picture Courtsey of my friend Amy

When my friend went to Italy last spring break, she took this picture for me. I plan to go to Florence this summer for myself. I cannot wait to stand in front of his statue...

Having taken a classical archaeology course, I can't help but notice how Dante is being represented in this statue. From what I've learned, when an eagle is looking up at a man, it signifies that he is the god, Jupiter. Also, the fact that Dante is dressed in a toga and has a wreath on his head also signifies that. Or maybe I'm reading into it too much, who knows.

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[18 Nov 2004|10:35am]

So I'm writing an essay regarding the homosexual undertones of the Inferno.
There are plenty of examples from the text that imply the relationship between Dante and Virgil are more than just journeying friends.
If anyone has any imput, support, quotes from the text or ideas, tell me.

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My Board [11 Nov 2004|06:25pm]

[ mood | sleepy ]

Well, I created my own board...and I'm posting this to ask if people wouldn't mind joining the board. I'd really appreciate it. Thank you very much...it's about religion, government, literature, art, music, movies, Dante...advice too! and general chatting! please come and join!


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Dante and Beatriz Portinari (part 1) [27 Oct 2004|04:18pm]


transcript of an articleCollapse )

If you want I'll continue transcribing this, I'm sorry for the bad grammar but I'm Spanish and translating it from an article in Spanish.

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Italian sonnet inspired by Dante [26 Oct 2004|01:17am]

I had to write a sonnet for my poetry class based on a quote from a text. I chose Dante's La Vita Nuova :-D

Love's ReasonCollapse )

Octave is the man talking and the sestet is Love answering.

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New =\ [23 Oct 2004|06:39pm]

[ mood | embarrassed ]

=\ I'm kind of nervous to post =\ since I dunno...I've never really joined a community or anything. =\ *squeals and falls over* I dunno...the name of it caught my eye since I'm a big...big...big fan of Dante's. I just adore La divinia commedia. I've read it several times. lol Unfortunately -_- I don't know it by heart...blasted. I joined this literary club at school and we're focusing somewhat on Dante...we're reading The Dante Club by Matthew Pearl...Well, I alread finished it XD It's a magnificent book. So...yeah...Other thing...my name is Tyler -_- and my nickname is actually Dante because I always read him and my friends tease me about it. But...I guess...that's all...*runs away embarassed*

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Silly tidbit [01 Sep 2004|12:53am]

Have any of you seen the movie, Beetlejuice?

I don't know if you've ever realized it, but during one of the scenes when Beetlejuice is in Adam's model of the town, Beetlejuice sees a whorehouse called Dante's Inferno. Hehe.

I wish I could find a picture to show you all, but unfortunately, I looked for an hour and couldn't find one.

I find it sad that no one has anything cool to say about Dante :'(

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